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Nat Greene Flyfishers February 2005 |
| TITLE | YEAR | AUTHOR | PAGES | BINDING | TOPIC |
| The Dry Fly New Angles | 1990 | Gary LaFontaine | 305 | hardcover | fly selection |
| Nymphs guide to naturals | 1970 | Ernest Schwiebert | 337 | hardcover | A Complete guide |
| Tying Swisher/Richards flies | 1980 | Swisher & Richards | 48 | paperback | Hints & tips |
| In the ring of the rise | 1976 | Vincent Marinaro | 184 | hardcover | Reprint of 2nd book |
| Reading Trout Streams | 1988 | Tom Rosenbauer | 162 | hardcover | Orvis Guide |
| Quill Gordon | 1972 | John McDonald | 195 | hardcover | History,tales& stories |
| Trout Madness | 1992 | John Voelker | 178 | hardcover | aka Robert Traver |
| Complete Book of Flytying | 1983 | Eric Leiser | 240 | hardcover | lots of fly recipes |
| The Compleat Brown Trout | 1974 | Cecil Heacox | 182 | hardcover | history & stories |
| The Orvis Anthology | 1984 | Tom Rosenbauer | 210 | hardcover | 23 stories |
| Streamer flytying and Fishing | 1966 | Joseph Bates Jr. | 368 | hardcover | fly recipes & History |
| Modern Fly Fishing | 1993 | Jim Cassada | 233 | hardcover | WNC Native |
| Trout fishing & Trout flies | 1957 | Jim Quick | 252 | hardcover | techniques |
| A Modern Dry-fly Code | 1970 | Vincent Marinaro | 269 | paperback | New edition |
| Trout Fishing in The--- | 1989 | Harry Murray | 124 | paperback | Shenendoah Natl Park |
| The Art of Tying the Wet fly | 1971 | Leisingring & Hidy | 160 | hardcover | fishing the lymph |
| An Outdoor Journal | 1988 | Jimmy Carter | 273 | hardcover | adventures & reflections |
| Fly Tying Materials | 1973 | Eric Leiser | 210 | paperback | their use & protection |
| Trout Fishing in NC Mountains | 1986 | Bill Moseley | 194 | paperback | Stream Access points |
| Smokey Mtn trout fishing guide | 1985 | Don Kirk | 140 | paperback | stream listing |
| Bass Fishing in NC | 1988 | Buck Paysour | 244 | hardcover | 2nd edition |
| Fly Fishing in NC | 1995 | Buck Paysour | 288 | paperback | w/many local fishermen |
| Fly Fishing for Bass Handbook | 1988 | Dave Whitlock | 158 | paperback | LL Bean |
| Fly Fishing for smallmouth bass | 1989 | Harry Murray | 190 | hardcover | tackle & tips |
| VIDEOS | |||||
| Tying flies, trout & bass | Dave Whitlock | 1:30 hrs. | Filmed at Nat Greene | ||
| Fly fishing the English way | 1:30 hrs. | Anatomy of a trout stream | |||
| Tying/Casting/dryfly fishing | Orvis/Mel Kreiger/Borger | 3:30 hrs. | |||
| The One Fly Contest | Jack Dennis | 2:00 hrs. | Lee Wulff catches 3 salmon | ||
| Gary LaFontaine | Mike Lawson Jack Dennis | 5:00 hrs. | approx 20 flies tied | ||
| Smokey Mtn fly patterns | Roger Lowe | 2:15 hrs. | 12 wet & dry, incl. yeller hammer | ||
| Strategies & Super Hatches | Swisher & Richards | 2:00 hrs. | |||
| 1984 ESPN fishing episodes | Joe Humphreys | 3:00 hrs. | Stream Ecology | ||
| Fishing Bow River Canada | Gary Borger | 2:00 hrs. | Trout in still water | ||
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What
Fly fishing for American shad, hickory shad, and striped bass during their spring spawning runs.
Where
The Roanoke River near Weldon has both hickory shad and stripers whereas American shad ascend the Neuse River as far as a dam outside the Raleigh beltway.
When
Hickories ascend the Roanoke River in late February through early April, the run peaks around mid-March. They are accessible near the Weldon boat launching ramp. The state posts weekly information at http://www.wildlife.state.nc.us/pg03_Fishing/pg3d16.htm. New reports are posted on Fridays.
American shad run up the Neuse River all the way to a dam just outside the Raleigh beltway. The run begins in late March and lasts until mid-April. Currently there is no web site giving information on this run.
Stripers typically ascend the Roanoke River by the third week of April. They will stay up near Weldon until the water gets over 65. Check the web site!
Both the hickories and the stripers produce very heavy runs of fish, literally thousands of fish may be in the river at any time.
Note: Due to the popularity of these runs, conservation officers are out in force. Be sure to have your license because you will be checked (Licenses can be obtained on-line: http://www.ncwildlife.org/fs_index_01_license.htm) or by phone (1-888-248-6834) Monday through Friday 8:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m; credit cards only). If you bring a boat, be certain you have the gear required by the Coast Guard (boat registration, life preservers for each person, and a throwable floating cushion or life ring). The live wells of all boats are checked for stripers when leaving the ramp.
How
Boat vs. wade - At Weldon there is some shore fishing, but very limited. Shore fishing better is suited to spinning tackle because of the high, slippery banks; fly fishing would be restricted to roll casting. If you want to use a spinning rod to catch hickories, try shad darts, silver spoons, brightly colored crappie jigs. You will lose a lot of tackle on the bottom so bring lots of lures.
There is also some shore fishing on the Neuse, again depending on conditions. A canoe can be used in the Neuse (larger boats cannot be launched). A canoe could be used for the hickory shad in the Roanoke providing the water conditions are right because there are several good spots within an easy paddle from the boat ramp.
Most fishing on the Roanoke is done from a boat. Bass boats are very good because you can stand up and not be restricted to casting from a seated position (as in a canoe). Bass boats also have a shallow draft that helps to avoid the rocks. You can also cast from a seated position in a canoe always keeping in mind the “tippy” nature of the canoe.
There are several guides that work both runs. You can split the cost with a buddy, it will give you great sport and provide lasting memories. The web sites of several guides that work the run and have assisted Nat Greene in the past are listed below.
Finding the fish. Anadromous fish are always looking for a place to rest on their way upstream. So the goal is find holes where the fish pause. On the Neuse, they are stuck at the base of the dam. On the Roanoke, there are several places below the falls or downstream of large rocks. Also keep an eye out for boats with anglers holding bent rods. Some fishermen prefer to drift until they find a group of shad and then set the anchor. If your boat has a fishfinder (sonar detection), use it!
Hickory shad. Use 5 to 6 weight rods, 175 to 225 gr. sinking lines, two ft. leaders (6 or 8 lb. test), and bright flies in #4-6 (small Clousers, various shad flies). Loop the fly onto the leader to get more action of out your retrieve. The Roanoke is never clear so the brightly colored flies are easier for the fish to find. Get a hook hone and use it often! Nine times out of ten you will hook the fish in the lower jaw which is extremely tough tissue, not bone, but difficult to sink a hook into. I landed several that simply had the hook point hung up on the lower jaw. Use a hook hone to make the point needle sharp to begin with then frequently check the point and touch it up. The point should be sharp enough to be ‘sticky’ when dragged across your thumbnail.
Hickories seem to like warmer weather, a cold front will reduce the bite. They hit all day so you don’t need to get there early. They are aggressive, hit hard, and will often whack the fly several times until they finally get hooked (surprise!?). Then they pull hard, jump, and tail-walk like miniature tarpon. Cast quartering upstream to give the line a chance to take the fly to the bottom. Keep the rod tip low to the water and pointed directly at the line. Follow the drift of the line with the rod tip and make lively strips back to the boat. It is important to vary the speed and length of the strip to find what works on a given day. Strike by pulling back hard with the line hand; you will get a faster and more powerful hookset than by lifting the rod. Strip the fish in, don’t bother to put the line back on the reel; you will just have to pull it off to cast again. The fish run about 14 to 20 inches with 16 to 18 inchers common. They run up to 2.5 lbs.
American shad. Use 7 to 8 weight rods, 225 to 325 gr. sinking lines, two ft leaders, and similar flies as for the hickories. The fish fight well but are not as aggressive as the hickories; Americans do not jump. Use the same technique as described above. They range from 2 to 8 pounds with 4 to 5 lbs common. Both shad species have an aggregate limit of 10 fish/angler/day.
Striped bass. Use 7 to 9 weight rods, 325 gr. or heavier sinking lines, short leaders (10 lb. test), and large Clouser minnows, Deceivers, ect (size 1 and larger). Stripers are light aversive and prefer to feed in periods of low light, in the morning until around 9:00 and then pick again when evening shadows start to fall across the water around 3:30 or 4:00 until complete darkness. Stripers love cloudy days, better yet drizzly, rainy days. You will catch mostly smaller males (3 to 5 lbs.) although the possibility is always there for bigger females (8 to 20 lbs.); this is because the smaller, faster males outnumber the larger, slower females about 19:1.
Fly lines. For all of these fish, the fly must be fished on the bottom. That means using sinking lines, not sink tip lines; sink tips don’t go down far enough. I recommend three commercially available lines: Scientific Anglers (The FlyLine), Cortland (GOPC), and Teeny lines (The FlyLine). All of these lines have sinking heads attached to running lines; try to find the ones with sinking running lines (the Cortland saltwater “Quick Descent” lines have intermediate sinking running lines). These lines are all versions of shooting lines: you cast the head portion that pulls the running, or shooting, line along with it.
You can also make a homemade version that works well and is commonly used. Purchase enough Cortland LC-13 (13 gr./ft.; $0.50/ft. at GOPC) for your rod weight and attach loops to each end. Fill the reel spool with Sunset Line Co. “Amnesia,” a flat monofilament shooting line (available at The FlyLine or GOPC). Web sites listed below describe how to make the lines and figure how much lead core you’ll need.
To cast shooting lines, you must remember it is the weight of the head that does the work. Because you will start out with the head just beyond the rod tip, you gain nothing by false casting. Simply make a low backcast and throw a high forward cast applying the power stroke at the very end of the forward cast. As long as the line is in the air, it will continue to move forward so a high forward cast can easily travel fifty feet or more. With all the weight concentrated at the forward end of the line, shooting lines essentially turn a fly rod into a spinning rod.
Despite all this verbiage, these runs are not tackle intensive. I carry a spool of tippet material, hook hone, and wear a clipper pinned to my shirt. I have a box of flies in the boat. I also wear a hat and polarized clip-ons. Always wear some kind of eye protection, the wind could change at just the wrong time! A net is needed for the stripers and a smaller version could be carried for the shad (a bass-sized net will work fine).
Summary
These runs are a great way to start the fishing year off with a bang. Once you get into a rhythm, you’ll see the technique is straightforward: cast quartering upstream, give the line a chance to sink, start stripping and sock it to ‘em! I know the technique of throwing (actually a better term than ‘casting’) a shooting line will seem foreign at first but with a little practice you’ll be amazed at how far you can toss a fly and how productive the method is. Expand your fly fishing horizons and have a blast!
See you on the river!
Web sites of interest:
1. Making homemade shooting head lines:
http://globalflyfisher.com/fishbetter/shootingheads and
http://www.flyfisherman.com/skills/dslinebuild/index1.html
2. USGS water gauge at Weldon:
http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nc/nwis/uv?site_no=02080500
3. Fishing guides:
Capt. Gordon Churchill
http://www.geocities.com/~flyfishnc
Capt. Dean Lamont
http://www.centerpath.com/tightlineflyfishing/index.shtml
Both of these sites have articles about fishing the shad and striper runs.
4. North Carolina shad information:
http://www.sefly.com/nc_shad.htm
http://www.ncfishandgame.com/fish/shad.html
5. Fishing information:
http://www.landbigfish.com/fish/fish.cfm?ID=182
6. Photos of shad:
http://www.fisheries.vims.edu/femap/fish%20pages/American%20Shad.htm
7. North Carolina angler recognition program:
http://www.wildlife.state.nc.us/fs_index_03_fishing.htm
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